"Political language -- and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists -- is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
-- George Orwell, Politics and the English Language
It's meee! Well, once again your choice of subject matter has struck a personal note. Since 2009, I have been an "adult learning" student in the Apollo Group (not U of Phoenix, but it's 'lil sister school, Western International U) the system so prevalent here in the Land of Sand. There are only three schools in the entire state that offer Bachelor's programs that AREN'T for-profit (ASU, NAU, and UofA), and they just don't offer the flexibility that those of us who have to work full time really need. Plus they cost an arm and a leg, too, the community college system in this state only offers Associates programs. I already have two Associates degrees, lol...Apollo just closed all but one physical campus here in the Valley, so, for the past 6 months I have been effectively strong-armed into taking online classes. They cost more, they're OK, kinda, but there ya are. It's for-profit or nuthin' in some of these red states.
Hey, I feel your pain. I got my bachelor's online, and then my MBA at the local state university, working full-time the entire time. It's very difficult to find anything that can accommodate the schedule of a 40-hour worker.
I enjoyed both experiences, much more so the interactivity of grad school, but it's the pressures of credentialism -- especially in a market where, for many disciplines, the knowledge can be found literally for free -- that get to me. To watch people making money hand over fist on the misery and indebtedness of other is just insult to injury.
Good luck to you all the same, I hope it translates into a better, higher-paying job for you. I can tell you that for me it definitely hasn't. That doesn't mean you shouldn't go for it anyway, just that the higher-ed system is pretty much based on the health care model at this point, which is sad and unnecessary.
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ReplyDeleteIt's meee! Well, once again your choice of subject matter has struck a personal note. Since 2009, I have been an "adult learning" student in the Apollo Group (not U of Phoenix, but it's 'lil sister school, Western International U) the system so prevalent here in the Land of Sand. There are only three schools in the entire state that offer Bachelor's programs that AREN'T for-profit (ASU, NAU, and UofA), and they just don't offer the flexibility that those of us who have to work full time really need. Plus they cost an arm and a leg, too, the community college system in this state only offers Associates programs. I already have two Associates degrees, lol...Apollo just closed all but one physical campus here in the Valley, so, for the past 6 months I have been effectively strong-armed into taking online classes. They cost more, they're OK, kinda, but there ya are. It's for-profit or nuthin' in some of these red states.
ReplyDeleteHey, I feel your pain. I got my bachelor's online, and then my MBA at the local state university, working full-time the entire time. It's very difficult to find anything that can accommodate the schedule of a 40-hour worker.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed both experiences, much more so the interactivity of grad school, but it's the pressures of credentialism -- especially in a market where, for many disciplines, the knowledge can be found literally for free -- that get to me. To watch people making money hand over fist on the misery and indebtedness of other is just insult to injury.
Good luck to you all the same, I hope it translates into a better, higher-paying job for you. I can tell you that for me it definitely hasn't. That doesn't mean you shouldn't go for it anyway, just that the higher-ed system is pretty much based on the health care model at this point, which is sad and unnecessary.